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65/Shifting Towards Climate-Just Mobility (with Anne Kretzschmar)
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65/Shifting Towards Climate-Just Mobility (with Anne Kretzschmar)

Today we'll be talking to Anne Kretzschmar. She’s a coordinator with the Stay Grounded network which works on a global level to reduce air traffic and build a climate-just transport system. They recently published a paper entitled  ‘A Rapid and Just Transition of Aviation: Shifting towards climate-just mobility‘ which was a big part of our conversation.

Topics discussed:

  • Social and environmental costs of airport projects

  • The problem behind ‘carbon offsetting’

  • Looking for just alternatives

  • Tackling tax exemption for aviation

  • How flying is already unjust

  • The problem of frequent flyers

  • Implementing actual limits (frequent flyer levee)

  • Europe’s lack of international booking for trains

  • Trains can also be a problem (example of Maya Train project in Mexico)

  • Wider question of asking what kind of mobility do we need and wand and how can we distribute it in a just way

  • Taking the topic of jobs and labor seriously

  • Impact of COVID-19 on aviation and what might come next

  • Degrowth

  • Change by Design or by Disaster

  • Green New Deal for Gatwick

  • How ‘bailouts’ rarely actually support those most impacted by industry losses

  • Alternative tourisms

  • The importance of internationality and the centrality of environmental justice

  • Supporting critical aviator workers

  • Airport-related Injustice and Resistance map

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