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74/ The Political Economy of Car Dependence: Understanding Systems of Provision (with Giulio Mattioli & Julia Steinberger)
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74/ The Political Economy of Car Dependence: Understanding Systems of Provision (with Giulio Mattioli & Julia Steinberger)

This is a conversation with Giulio Mattioli and Julia Steinberger about their article ‘the political economy of car dependence: A systems of provision approach‘ published in the ‘Energy Research & Social Science‘ journal. We also discussed the topics below.

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Topics Discussed:

  • The five key elements of what we’re calling the ‘car-dependent  transport system’: i) the automotive industry; ii) the provision of car  infrastructure; iii) the political economy of urban sprawl; iv) the  provision of public transport; v) cultures of car consumption

  • The problem with focusing too much on consumption and the importance of covering the production side

  • How where we live can influence our politics, and how suburban car-oriented lifestyles are actually subsidized by the state

  • The importance of network planning

  • Looking for decoupling and finding degrowth instead

  • The problem with ‘sustainable’ growth

  • How the car industry shows the necessity of degrowth

  • Why more equitable societies are easier to decarbonize

  • The problem with the argument that personal choices do not matter

  • Dealing with climate anxiety through activism, work, research, learning

  • How come we knew so much and did so little?

  • Working with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)

  • What is ecologial economics?

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Music by Tarabeat.

Photo by Denys Nevozhai on Unsplash

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Hauntologies by Elia Ayoub
The Fire These Times
A podcast project working to uplift internationalist dialogues on human rights, climate change, and visions of bold futures. Our unique editorial team are deeply committed to weaving together radical perspectives from the periphery. By Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti & Israa Abdel Fattah.
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