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78/ Pedagogies of Liberation, Gender and the Syrian Revolution (with Banah Ghadbian)
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78/ Pedagogies of Liberation, Gender and the Syrian Revolution (with Banah Ghadbian)

This is a conversation with Banah Ghadbian. She’s a Syrian activist  whose dissertation “Ululating from the Underground: Syrian Women’s  Protests, Performances, and Pedagogies under Siege” was the subject of our conversation. As usual, we ended up talking about a lot of other things as well.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Banah’s story growing up in a Syrian revolutionary family and being targeted by the regime as a result

  • The video that Banah released on YouTube in 2011, which the Syrian regime played on state tv

  • Her dissertation: Ululating from the Underground: Syrian Women’s Protests, Performances and Pedagogies under Siege (video summary)

  • “How  do Syrian women and youth heal from violence? How can our communities  be embodied when displaced from our lands and spirits?”

  • What is often missing from a lot of discourse regarding Syria?

  • The chronicles of Enab Baladi + An idea called Daraya

  • How does Banah think about the Syrian story and how it’s often misrepresented online?

  • What the Syrian revolution already achieved

  • Multiplicities and the entrenched ‘manliness’ of war analyses (reference to episode with Aida Hozic)

  • Undoing the diaspora/local binary

  • Pedagogies of liberation vs refugee/NGO industrial complex

  • Being friends with Hala Barakat, who was murdered in September of 2017 alongside her mother Orouba

  • Scarcity idea coming from an inherently capitalist logic

  • The Syrian revolution and anti-blackness; intersectionality

  • The misleading debates around ‘integration’, Alan Kurdi

  • Talking about sectarianism

  • Being in the dominant group at home, and in the minority in the diaspora

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Music by Tarabeat.

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