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99/ Inconvenient Findings and Enduring Hierarchies w/ Marie Berry and Milli Lake
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99/ Inconvenient Findings and Enduring Hierarchies w/ Marie Berry and Milli Lake

This is a conversation with Marie E. Berry and Milli Lake, co-founders and principal investigators of the Women’s Rights After War Project. We primarily spoke about their article "on inconvenient findings" and their paper for Annual Reviews "women's rights after war: on gender interventions and enduring hierarchies"

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Topics Discussed:

  • The limitations of many 'women's empowerment' programs

  • What happens when research findings challenge the work that policy makers are invested in promoting? Example of degrowth and economics

  • Who gets excluded when certain interests (such as class) are maintained?

  • Examples of Rwanda, Bosnia and Lebanon

  • Narrowly-defined arena for justice

  • The three Dayton agreements (referencing the episode with Aida Hozic) and ongoing situation in Bosnia and Serbia

  • War logics in 'postwar' contexts

  • The USA as a 'postwar' country

  • Should we make inconvenient findings less inconvenient?

  • The idea of nation states

  • The role of futurism and speculative movements

Resources Mentioned:

  • 69/ The Entrenched “Manliness” of Ethnic Power-sharing Peace Agreements (with Aida A. Hozić) https://thefirethisti.me/2021/03/28/69-the-entrenched-manliness-of-ethnic-power-sharing-peace-agreements-with-aida-a-hozic/

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